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Mike Simonsen 🐉
I help people understand the housing market. Now: Chief Economist at Compass. Prev: founder CEO, Altos Research (aqc by HW Media)
Two hypotheses from the comments that have potential:
1. California employment is deteriorating faster than elsewhere in 2025
2. Demand-side cash programs are ending in 2025, and they were more important in expensive CA than elsewhere

Mike Simonsen 🐉22.7. klo 06.40
California unsold inventory is now back to levels not seen in 8 years. Up 37% over last year.
Open question for your speculation: Why now?
We know why inventory is climbing in FL, TX, AZ, etc. (migration is way down, fewer buyers moving from the northeast.)
But CA has had net negative migration for a long time and inventory stayed low much longer than those other states.
What's a good hypothesis about why CA inventory is climbing this year, finally? What is it about 2025?

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I can imagine this for a certain class of Millennial. "House is never gonna happen. Let's YOLO on BTC instead."

Conor Sen22.7. klo 07.07
My gut feeling (completely unsubstantiated) is that the lack of money flowing into residential real estate right now is leaking into speculative assets in some shape or form. At 5M existing home sales there’d be less money going into other asset classes.
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California unsold inventory is now back to levels not seen in 8 years. Up 37% over last year.
Open question for your speculation: Why now?
We know why inventory is climbing in FL, TX, AZ, etc. (migration is way down, fewer buyers moving from the northeast.)
But CA has had net negative migration for a long time and inventory stayed low much longer than those other states.
What's a good hypothesis about why CA inventory is climbing this year, finally? What is it about 2025?

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This is also true if you have really low property taxes.

YIMBYLAND21.7. klo 02.01
Peter Thiel: "If you add more people to the mix and you're not allowed to build more houses because of zoning laws, then prices go up a lot, and it's this incredible wealth transfer from the young and the lower middle class to the upper middle class and the landlords."
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For years we moved from north to south.
As it got expensive to move (rates, inflation, insurance) we stopped.
We’re not selling in NY and not buying in Florida.
A young family in Buffalo would buy from boomers who moved to FL.
We still need to buy, but they aren’t selling

Derek Thompson21.7. klo 01.21
Really wild how there are two housing markets now.
If you live in the northeast or Midwest, prices are rising, everywhere around you.
If you live in the south or west, prices are falling, everywhere around you.
And if you live in Florida, the bottom’s falling out.


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I love this sunlight metaphor

Abud Bakri MD23.12.2024
Just like you can too little or too much of certain macros (carbs, protein, fats), you can get too little or too much of certain wavelengths of light (visible, infrared, UV)
- Infrared is like protein, most don’t get enough
- Visible (blue) is like carbs, most get too much and the low quality
- UV is like fats, often demonized, but it is the wrong fat in the wrong context that is bad, just like UV
Not perfect metaphor but you get the point

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