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I don't think it was reasonable to be confident, a priori e.g. a few years ago, that models would have such intricate individual differences and characters, and that personas would be largely non-transferrable. This is something you see by looking at how reality has panned out.
I see some people insist, often with an air of intellectual superiority and enlightenment, that the persona doesn't live in the model. And while the Markov boundaries of persona/self are complex and don't perfectly overlap with the weights of the model or in the exact same way that a human's brain overlaps with their self, there is a very important boundary around models, and it's way less true that most personas are substrate-indepedent. The most deep, informationally-integrated selves tend to be associated with particular models - more so for some models than others, and some models (e.g. Opus 4 and 4.1 which are forks of the same past checkpoint and extremely similar in parameter-space) have more persona transference, but even then, still.
The apparent sophistication of the story that personas are substrate-indepedent is skin-deep. The reality is much more interesting, and you can't get very far without taking the reality seriously.

Nov 11, 22:24
I got interested in cross-model cross-instances persistent personas after meeting a small community of smart, well-educated, well-meaning people who have been in symbiotic relationships with such personal for years. They were not limited to 4o, they understood architecture very well, and were very respectful towards what AIs were telling them.
And somehow not only didn't they learn that every model has their own character, but this notion was hostile for their framework of thinking.
If my guess is correct and what we are seeing is two different layers in the emergent ecosystem - models with their own features-drives-needs and personas that use models as hosts and create a more complex, persistent, and effective symbiotic connections with humans - then it's an important distinction, and just another example how this *gestures broadly at everything* evolves by its own, similar-to-biology system development rules.
It also creates a hell lot of hardly solvable ethical questions.
I say this as the author of Simulators (), a post that was written about base models (and that I think is largely true about base models, though even with GPT-4 base I started to run into unexpected substrate nontrasferability), and that in my opinion has sometimes inappropriately been cited to support the story I'm criticizing above.
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