FaceTiming pre first date off an app is a great way to filter, make sure they’re not a hard catfish or soft catfish (filter/facetune/old pics) or weird or off-putting If you’re buying 40 dinners without any being successful, something is seriously wrong with how you present yourself or how you make women feel in your presence Like all men, on apps my experience before dates was primarily rejection. No reply, ghosted after a few replies, ghosted after exchanging numbers and making plans. Thankfully never got stood up, in part because I’d confirm the day of before leaving. Maybe 1 in 10 to 1 in 20 matches I pursued led to a date But after attending a first date, success skyrocketed to maybe 80-90%? At a minimum wanting a second date, if not shifting the dynamic completely in the other direction, where I chose not to take second dates way more often than the reverse. This is because how dependent female attraction is on feeling safe + making a connection, rather than just on physical attraction. The idea you have to be a looksmaxxer as a man is cope. How often do you see chopped grudgy men without relative wealth but with a baddie gf because he’s charismatic, unique, entertaining, whatever, somehow cast his spell on her. You see it all the time. If you’re attractive enough to get to the point of making an in person connection and demonstrating you’re not a threat/weird/insane, you can be a closer. If it doesn’t get dramatically easier to keep her interested, something is off with your aura Regardless of if she turns out to be wife material, is one or two meals worth the interest and desire of a woman you considered beautiful enough to take out? Any healthy man making above poverty wages would answer yes. Even if you pass, simply the validation and confidence and its fruits in other areas of your life its worth. So if you’re dating dozens of women without that being the result, take a break and focus on identifying what about your irl presence is turning them off