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The Other Stuff Podcast
Conversations that explore the development of the modern world and different sides of interesting people. Hosted by @internetVin 🛜
Aidan Gomez (@aidangomez) is a computer scientist, co-author of the seminal paper ‘Attention Is All You Need,’ and the CEO of Cohere.
In this episode, we discussed his upbringing in the cabin his grandfather built in Codrington, a small town North of Brighton, and the values that were instilled in him through his family. We explored his path from Codrington to his undergraduate studies at the University of Toronto, emailing Geoffrey Hinton, and joining Google Brain where he co-wrote the paper on transformers.
We discussed how he met his co-founders Ivan Zhang and Nick Frosst, and his insights on what it means to build a meaningful, successful company in Canada. Aidan shares his conviction about what is at stake — for Canada and for the world at large.
This is a conversation about family, values, and what it means to live with conviction.
The Other Stuff is hosted by @internetvin — filmmaker, entrepreneur, and possibly the most curious man on Earth. Produced by New.
The Other Stuff #29 — Aidan Gomez: Empathy and Conviction
— Timestamps
00:00:00 Intro
00:03:10 The Malleability of Toronto
00:11:06 Growing Up in Codrington
00:13:50 The Story of Aidan Gomez’s Family
00:27:23 Introduction to the Internet
00:30:39 Values and Work Ethic
00:35:46 University of Toronto’s AI Scene
00:40:48 Emailing Geoffrey Hinton
00:42:16 Google Brain
00:45:15 Dropout: A Simple Way to Prevent Neural Networks from Overfitting
00:49:48 The Beauty of Research
00:54:24 One Model to Rule Them All
00:59:54 Meeting Ivan Zhang and Nick Frosst
01:04:00 The Birth of Cohere
01:06:56 Twitter Influencers and Alex Friedland
01:11:48 Being the CEO
01:12:51 Building for Canada
01:15:01 Three Fundamental Ingredients of Building a Company
01:21:39 Working with the Canadian Government
01:24:39 Reflexivity in Canada
01:36:22 What Is Evil?
01:42:40 The Role of AI in the World
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Steph Ango (@kepano) is a designer, entrepreneur, and the CEO of Obsidian.
In this episode, we discussed his journey from creating Winamp skins to leading Obsidian, and the fundamental patterns and inclinations that drive everything he explores and makes. We discussed Obsidian on multiple different dimensions, his deluxe chocolate chip cookie recipe, his exploration through furniture design, and his default inclination to push “too far” into anything he is exploring. Steph Ango demo'd the design process of several furniture projects he’s been working on at home as well as a custom piano learning app he created to teach himself music theory.
This is a conversation about craftsmanship, pursuing a deep understanding, and what that reveals about who we are.
The Other Stuff is hosted by @internetvin — filmmaker, entrepreneur, and possibly the most curious man on Earth. Produced by New.
The Other Stuff #28 — Kepano: The Interconnectedness of Everything
— Timestamps
00:03:55 Origin of Kepano
00:10:34 Relationship with Computers
00:15:25 Online Communities & Video Games
00:30:47 Winamp Skins
00:40:04 Uniformity in Design
00:51:05 Obsidian
00:59:20 Bidirectional Linking, And The Relationship Between Everything
01:23:18 Obsidian Sync, Publish, and Bases
01:32:06 Why File Over App
01:43:15 The Deluxe Chocolate Chip Cookie Taste Test
01:49:48 Living Fully
02:09:50 Early Project Walkthrough
02:19:03 Furniture Design Walkthrough
02:49:00 Constraint and Patterns
02:58:47 Kepiano
03:13:00 The Future of AI and Startups
03:31:10 Closing
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